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, president obama wants more in the $1.5 trillion in tax hikes, but he has no plan -- or announced cuts in spending, why those tax hikes don't add up to anything meaningful and we'll talk with the ceo of cke restaurants, andy puzder and says, tax rates will stifle economic growth and our favorite doctors are here, to psychoanalyze the scandal that brought down the head of the cia. we are delighted to be joined, now, by the admiral james lyons, retired commander of the u.s. pacific fleet. it is always good to have you with us. thanks for being here. >> nice to be back with you, lou. >> lou: let's turn, to first, the talking pois. which, it seems that no one after general petraeus made it clear there had been changes in those talking points, the testimony before congress s been surveyed, and congressman mike rogers, the chair of the house intelligence committee, said, it has to be the white house, because everybody else has testified that they didn't. do you agree? >> i agree. and, in that deputy's committee i'm hurry the white house representative and the national securityfrom the nation
's the simultaneous convergence of tax increases and spending cuts designed to pressure lawmakers accepting other negotiated deficit reduction changes. it includes expiration of the bush era tax cuts that would effect everyone. expiration of the tax cut around for years can be called a tax increase. the nonpartisan budget office would bring in $1 trillion in ten years. on tap, 1.2 trillion in spending cuts for ten years. $100 billion in first year. half to defense programs. half to nondefense. cbo says going off the cliff would lead to a recession next year. we have fox team coverage tonight. ed henry is trying to read tea leaves on a day of mixed signals from all sides but we begin with mike emanuel on the possibility that g.o.p. lawmakers may put their oath of office above a promise to antitax increase organizer. good evening. >> good evening. the republican sources say they are offering a balanced approach of significant spending cuts and some revenue without boosting tax rates. >> we have been responsible as we remain firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that wo
will also be here fred also, president obama has no plan to announce tax cuts and spending cuts. why they don't add up to anything meaningful. lou: the testimony before congress has been surveyed. congressman mike rogers. everyone else has testified that they didn't. do you agree? >> i do agree. and the deputies committee, i'm sure the white house representatives of national security from the national security agency council had their orders. lou: general david petraeus says for his part, one of the confusing things -- confusion between the testimony he gave to congress three days after september 11 and what he said over the past few days in congress, it represents what happens when you try to avoid tipping off terrorists. do you buy that? >> according to congressman king, it indicates that betray d petraeus deadlock. lou: is appropriate for a military man to take upon himself or herself for the good of the country and misrepresent reality united states congress. >> certainly based on what congressman king has reported in the open press something of the like. lou: specifically, it me
the pacific fleet and congressmen covert from texas. obama once more than $1 trillion of tax hikes but will not renounce spending. the "chalk talk" what that does not add up to anything meaningful we will talk with one guest to stifle economic growth. also to analyze this cycle to bring down the head of the cia. admiral, it is good to have you with us. turned to the talking points. it seems no one after general petraeus made it clear their ranges in the talking points, testimony has been surveyed and mike rogers said it has to be the white house everybody else testified. >> by a agree. i am sure the white house representative council had marching orders. lou: and petraeus said part of the confusion between the testimony he gave to congress three days after september 11 represents what happens when you back the terrorists. >> according to congressman came -- king is indicated that petraeus lied during the first testimony. >> and misrepresented the truth to congress. is it true -- possible for a man had of the agency to take it upon himself to misrepresent reality to the venice state
, clinton, and the first george bush, moved away from a position no additional taxes. they all added revenues to deficit reduction. a significant amount of revenue. >> your colleague from georgia just this week said the following about that pledge not to raise any taxes. >> you know, that pledge i signed 20 years ago was valid then. it's valid now, but times have changed significantly.Ñi and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. >> it is my view that the issue of taxes is the number one stumbling block to any kind of fiscal deal. that has to be resolved first before you can get to issues like sequestration. when you hear that from a colleague, does it say to you that there is room, and does the president do anything short of raising tax rates on the wealthy? is there anything short of that acceptable? >> well, you've got to raise additional revenues, including tax rates on the wealthy. >> those have to go up? >> they have to go up. there's ways of doing that. secondly, though, we've got to close some significant loopholes. for instance, the ones which
, by extending middle class tax cuts and raising taxes on the rich. >> it would give us more time than next year to work together. on a comprehensive plan to bring down the deficit, streamline our tax system. do in a balanced way. >> the president apparent shift away from spending and tax altogether now in a big deal could increase the chances of a market rattling fall off the cliff. since the republicans want spending cuts included. >> republicans are willing to put revenue on the table. but it's time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. >> the president's move came one day after two other big developments, suggesting democrats want tax hikes on the rich now, with the promise of cuts to programs like medicare later. on tuesday, senator dick durbin flatly declared entitlement reform should not be on the table. yesterday, top white house officials also met with leading liberal groups, from labor unions to moveon.org. with one attendee telling the "washington post" they expect the taxes to go up on the wealthy and to protect medicare and m
back to work but the clock is ticking. unless lawmakers make a deal, automatic spending cuts and tax increases are just a matter of only a few weeks away for everyone. i'll ask a top member of the republican leadership if there's any room for serious compromise. >>> and if you own a home, deductions that save you money every year could be changing or simply going away. we're taking a closer look. >>> and ballpoint pens that hide poison needles and poison bullets. they sound like props in a cold war era spy movie. but they're part of a real assassination plot. we have details. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we're just 36 days away from the painful across-the-board spending cuts and tax increases people here in washington are calling the fiscal cliff. today, we have new proof that people across the country not only are aware of what's going on, they're very, very worried. our new poll shows 68% say the country will face either a crisis or major problems if the cuts in taxes aren't avoided. and a whopping 77% say their personal financial situation will be affected
tax rates for the wealthy in particular. that comes as top republicans in the senate draws a line in the sand saying political ideology cannot rule the negotiations. >> the only balanced approach is one that includes real and lasting reforms. so republicans have stepped out of our comfort zone, we've been clear about what we'll do and what we won't, and yet we remain at an impasse. leading us to why ask why? because a vocal minority on the hard left continues to argue from the leaders of their party from the president on down that democrats in washington should do absolutely nothing about short term, or long term spending problems. this is the thelmand louise crowd, the ones who dream about higher taxes and bigger government it will pay for, regardless of the impact on jobs or the economy, or america's standing in the world. these are the ones who have recklessly ignored the fact that we can't keep running trillion dollar deficits every year and throw a tantrum if someone suggests that maybe the taxpayers shouldn't keep subsidizing ever last program washington ever dreamed up. the
democrats now say they would rather see a series of automatic tax hikes punish all americans rather than to agree to spending cuts or deals they don't like and they believe compromise their principles. this comes despite warnings from the congressional budget office that the tax hikes now about to take place could throw the economy back into recession. two million more americans could be left out of a job and most troubling of all according to the pentagon, the country's national security would be in serious jeopardy. if congress and the white house do not act. chris stirewalt is our fox news digital politics editor p.o.w. or play on foxnews.com. they cut the deal that put the automatic spending cuts in place and these automatic tax hikes in place thinking this will never happen. they went back, said all right, now that we have it in place let's try to fix it. well they failed. there wasn't the political will to deal with it at the time they passed. there wasn't the political will at the time they tried to deal with it and it was a complete political debach kill. now you have some people
.s. debt mounts and tax hikes andrew the corner. guess what? there's plenty of ways to make money, even in an obama economy. we have all the information you need to rake it in, even when they say it's not, it's always about money. ♪ >> starting off, oil and energy, hosting money from houston, i sat down for an exclusive one-and-one with the ceo and co-founder of ki in, -- kinder morgan. we focus on the future of the energy business and natural gas. this is what he said. >> we need to have a level playing field. we need to have, in the energy field, for example, we have just tremendous opportunities, particularly in the naral gas area. we got a game changer here. we got a fuel that's cheap, abunda, domestic, plentiful.g we ought to be doing everythingp we canlo to exploit that. melissa: fracking for natural gas?oded >> natural gas in general.e the shale place, which, of course, predicated to fracking, but the opportunities forrtun natural gas, you want to talk abt response to climate change and reducing co2 emissions, thio is the golden key to open the door more than mostenewables will
with the territory. >> chris: would you agree to raise taxes as part of a solid compromise to avoid a fiscal cliff. >> i would opposed to raising tax rates but i believe we can close a lot of loopholes. we can do things to e-- in fact, two other things. one, things like like a limit on the amount of deduction of charitable giving. a limit on the amount you can take on your home loan mortgage deduction and obviously we are going to have to look at entitle reform. entitlement. reform is the only way to get the debt and deficit under control. we've got to take it on. >> chris: let me ask you, you say you would consider more revenue but with loopholes -- >> there's so many of them. >> chris: you voted against the bush tax cuts a decade ago because you said too many of the benefits go to the wealthy, not the middle class. once they were passed you have changed your view and said i'm not going to oppose them. it you could get a deal for entitlement reform and take a chunk out of the national debt, why is the 35% top tax rate which you oppose sacred? >> every economist i respect says if you raise tax rat
-profile republicans that says he will break the longstanding pledge regarding taxes and says he will do it for the country, but only if democrats are willing to make reforms on entitledment programs, medicare and medicaid and social security. that is big if. good morning, hope your turkey was great. martha: good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. you've got this. congressman peter king and now senator bob corker say they will ignore the decades old pledge that was signed by 241 house members and senators. he says he believes it is a huge game-changer. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt the only pledge we should make to each other is to avoid becoming greece. republicans should put revenue on the table. we're this far in debt. we don't generate enough revenue. capping deductions will help generate revenue. raising tack rates will hurt job creation. bill: this is the heart of the matter. stuart varney, host of "varney & company". morning to you, sir? >> this is a real shift. one of the two sides had some movement in their position on the tax side of the debate. that side is the re
are holding most of the trump cards. if nothing is done, remember we go back to the clinton tax rates of the 1990s which were not all that bad. in fact, the economy did quite well under those tax rates. if nothing is done, basically the republicans lose. and if the republicans try to make a case that they are not going to vote for an extension of middle class tax cuts unless the rich also get a tax cut that, puts the republicans in the position of showing america that they are going to hold the middle class hostage and they are shields for the very rich. that kind of a demonstration is not going to be good for the g.o.p. so the democrats are holding a lot of the cards. the question is will the democrats actually hold firm. >> eliot: i think that's exactly right. this will be an easy test of will. should be an easy test of will for the president. as you have pointed out january 1 is the witching hour. the republicans lose more because their negotiating position is significantly weaker. one of the things that -- the
the of consumers but will the possibility of higher tax slow them down? we'll talk with matthew shay of the national retail federation and john sweeney of fidelity investments. plus the holiday is over and the white house and congressional leaders try to make a deal. we'll ask our sunday panel if negotiators can reach a compromise to avoid the fiscal cliff. and a thanksgiving tradition, our power player of the week has me dancing with turkeys. all, right now, on fox news sunday. ♪ >> chris: and, hello again, from fox news in washington. on this holiday weekend, we are watching several major foreign policy developments from egypt, to gaza. to the continuing controversy over the benghazi attacks. here to talk about it all is senator john mccain, and, senator, welcome back to fox news sunday. >> thank you, chris, dancing with turkeys? >> chris: you have to wait until the end of the show to see. >> i thought we were doing that now! >> chris: president mohamed morsi, gave himself almost unchecked powers and sent thousands into the streets, the people who have been helping to topple hosn
more important for these small businesses are the tax hikes and the tax increases that they are facing come the end of the year. a tax increase for top net income earners, from 35 to 39.6% in 2013. for all intents and purposes that involves small business owners? >> it's a lot of them. there is a fight going on. the left saying it will not affect small business too much. the right is saying it will. there is a lot of politics going on. my only question is how taking money out of anybody to put into washington, d.c. which is has been very ineffective with our capital is going to help -- i don't get it. somebody runs a small business and make a few hundred thousand a year to tell them you are going to pay $15-20,000 a year plus obamacare, i on don't think that is good news. i wish they had a better idea. elections have consequences. i gather taxes are going up. >> heather: according to ernest & young they are projecting that that tax rate will kill 710,000 small business jobs. people, individuals support businesses help that? >> yes, it's going to help. look, there is a reality. dollars
their article describing said freak out. upper income taxpayers look for ways to sidestep obama tax plan. he said he would end the tax cuts for the wealthy. and abc news found after the election that at least some of the people in this country making over $250,000 a year were just freaking out about that. "a 63-year-old attorney based in louisiana who asked not to be named told abc news that she plans to cut back on her business to get her annual income under the $250,000 mark should the obama tax plan be passed by congress and become law. we were going to try to make our income $249,999 she said." this is nuts. if i could just lower my income, i will avoid the tax hike. i will purposely make less money so i don't fall into the tax hike category. this is nuts, right? this is a fundamental misunderstanding. this is like that old joke about the three guys sitting about the one thing they would take with them to survive if they knew they would be trapped in the desert. the first guy would bring a compass so i could find my way out. the second guy would bring as much water i could carry so i cou
and tax hikes. well, now the white house releasing a new report building its case for a middle class tax cut. this comes as a national poll finds that 2/3 of americans surveyed believe politicians will act like spoiled children during fiscal cliff negotiations. while only 28% believe lawmakers can be counted on to behave like responsible adults. chief white house correspondent ed henry has the joy of living and reporting amongst the children. i'm not sure what that makes you but you are a chief white house correspondent so what is the latest? >> reporter: there is a still a little kid in all of us, jenna. the bottom line the negotiations are obviously reefing a critical stage. white house is trading to take advantage of cyber monday, retail holiday today to put out the report you mentioned to suggest retailers will take a particular hit if they face these automatic tax increases and spending cuts that will be kicking in at the end of the year if there is no action by the white house and lawmakers on capitol hill working together. bottom line here, republicans like jeff sessions, the budg
of positive talk following the election. even bill kristol talking about let's feel free to raise taxes if it's part of a bigger deal. a lot of elections don't have consequences, midterm elections. this was supposed to be a status quo election. but something happened here. i think the fever is starting to break. >> absolutely. you're going to see it, i think, on immigration reform, and i think you're going to see it on spending and taxation. and you don't have to effect or change basic tax rates. as you know, there's all sorts of things you can do on so-called tax expenditure dealing with home mortgage deductions, dealing with state and local taxes. also there's things obviously on the spending side, entitlements and domestic spending, this isn't that hard. this is, if you will, a mini-package. this isn't necessarily on the scale of simpson-bowles. it doesn't need to be. this ought to be doable. >> john heilemann, obviously both sides have to give. everyone's been saying that. there needs to be room for compromise, figure out how to get there. how does a deal look? is there a possibility of a
bernardino has very few options. they have to cut services elsewhere to pay for pensions or raise taxes to pay for the pensions. one way or another they will have to pay the bill. melissa: really? joey, what do you think?. >> i think he is right. what is the smell? sweet smell of victory. ultimately i don't think municipality can get out of this. yes it is in federal court. the question becomes, does the federal government take priority, does the state take priority? back a long, long time ago, melissa when the statute was enacted for bankruptcy it has to be federal. state contract says you honor that obligation. i think states are sovereign. municipalities are sovereign. the feds will be reluctant to tell them what to do. ultimately obligation, bankruptcy or not, that has to be satisfied. melissa: aaron, that is what bankruptcy is all about. that's why you declare bankruptcy. that's why you go through all the penalties involve in it. it is not a happy thing. it will be very hard for them to borrow money in the future. they're going you there the downside of bankruptcy. seems like they
and picks up just where it left off. stalemated over tax rates and entitlement spending. >> unfortunately, there's one obstacle standing between congress and compromise, grover norquist. for years, norquist has bullied lawmakers willing to put their oath of office or promise to serve constituents ahead of their pledge to this anti-tax zell lot. >> the washington democrats, every dollar that's ever been secured for anything is sacred. every dollar secured for anything is sacred. and they'll defend it to the death regardless of what it means for jobs, or the economy. >>> coming up here, the it's top economic adviser alan krueger. clashes in cairo today, more protests in tahrir square against egypt's president morsi. we'll have a live report. move over george clooney the on yan's kim junge un the sexiest man alive and beijing doesn't get the joke. good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. no joke today on capitol hill. ambassador susan rice's attempt to clear the air with republicans over benghazi did not work as the white house had hoped. senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they
wants to raise taxes on the wealthy for instance. is that going to solve the problem, get rid of the bush tax cuts? >> that is not going to solve the problem because we have to remember first of all, there is no such thing as a tax increase that affects only the wealthy. ernst & young predicted we'll lose 700,000 jobs even if we raise taxes only on top two rate brackets. 700,000 jobs. those are not ceo jobs. those are not top one percenters. those are people living paycheck to paycheck. bottom line we can't go back to the american people again and again expect to call that a fair deal when we continue to demand more money of them but we're not willing to change the way we spend money in washington. jon: senator mike lee is a republican of utah. some sobering thoughts there, senator. thanks for sharing them. >> thank you. jenna: we have some brand new developments in the political turmoil raging in egypt today as the country's two highest appeals courts suspend work to protest president morsi's latest move. now that latest move is his decision as president to make anything that
's "money" tonight. the great ideas just keep pouring out of d.c. now a hike in the national gas tax could be part of the fin al compromise to avoid the fiscal cliff. can you believe it? republican senator james improve joins us with reaction. >>> how been a assault rifle under the christmas tree? black friday shopping blows away records for gun sales. one g store rep is here to explain why because i'm not sure i get it. >>> will the keystone xl pipeline make it or not? the final public hearing is just days away. pressure is mounting on president obama to approve the new route. ceo of transcanada is here for a fox business exclusive. even when they say it's not it is always about money melissa: first let's take a look at the day's market headlines. stocks bit it for the second straight day senate majority leader harry reid indicated that little progress has been made in recent fiscal iff talks. big surprise there. so you're welcome, investors. the major intoday sees slid on the news and the dow fell 89 points. >>> shares of green mountain coffee are skyrocketing after-hours. the company so
is that we are having a continuing discussion about the budget of our country and about the taxes of our country, and indeed, about the unfair and often upside down nature of our tax code that allows people making hundreds of millions of dollars a year to pay a lower tax rate than a family that earns $100 a year -- $100,000 a year. and in the context of that discussion there is one thing i think we can do right now that would be important and helpful to the vast majority of americans, indeed to 98% of american families and 97% of american small businesses and that is to assure them that their taxes are not going to go up on january 1. assuming we can't get to a budget agreement before january 1, then automatically all of the bush tax cuts will end, and the senate has actually passed a law that will allow those tax cuts to be curtailed. to be protected. for families that earn $250,000 a year and less. that bill has passed the senate and it's now over at the house awaiting action by the house. the republican-controlled house is in a position any time the speaker chooses to call up that bil
the more conservative part of his caucus, some very bad news. republicans don't have a wlost leverage. tax cuts expire whether without anybody doing anything. and republicans are going to end up yielding a lot more than they give -- than they get in the negotiations. and john boehner, as the chief negotiator is the man identified with that surrender. so he needs to put down a marker now that says to the right wheel of the caucus, hey, i'm with you. if it were up to me, 100%. i'm with you. and i am going to put it in writing. i'm completely in favor of doing all the things that would have happened if we won the election. however, we didn't win the election. and we have facing this fiscal cliff and it's scary. so i'm about to have to do things you don't like. but be assured that my heart is in the right place. >> role laan what about this? they voted for obama. but when you look at how many people cnn poll last week, 51% of this country oppose the health care bill. 42% favor it. maybe boehner is on to something. >> no, he's not. because frankly we got to go look at those numbers. remember, t
is rich's the $230,000 for a tough pill to swallow for new tax hikes. so now it will buy even make dead-end. what does lou dobbs think? melissa: corporate america racing to get ahead of the cliff with wall street funds to help your wallet. melissa: time for stocks ahead to the floor of the new york stock exchange with nicole petallides confidence hitting the post recession peak but traders are not buying it? >> >> of its numbers result of the market moved higher the dow moving into the green but now was sells off continuing the trend. we're doing much of the same we're under pressure with dow jones industrial average but also of the nasdaq has some of perot's. the confidence numbers of the highest levels since february 2008 also case-schiller shows the total order for durable goods is unchanged. we have a deal on wall street and some upgrades so there are bits and pieces and many are rushing to get ahead of the fiscal cliff. lori: with the potential tax increase with dividends companies to try to get a job and are paying dividends early before jittery first. joined the is seen him from
passed two-and-a-half years ago, and it starts to unfold this january with new taxes. then insurance exchanges up and ready in october 2013. analysts, however, say the federal government is struggling in part because of the way the bill was thrown together. >> it was put together by a bunch of special interests, and that's why you get this rube goldberg contraption, we're having all these problems. >> reporter: now, just before thanksgiving the administration finally laid out what is called essential benefits which insurance companies need to structure and price their health care plans. but the administration is pressing its luck, because insurance companies usually need much more time than they have now. >> well, it typically takes anywhere from a year to a year and a half for an insurance company to develop new policies, get them approved by regulators and develop all the materials needed to sell them to consumers. >> reporter: requirements of the law still have not been completed. businesses of a certain size, for instance, have to have what is called adequate coverage in order to
't act, if the president doesn't act, in unison, your taxes are going up come january 1st to help raise revenue to pay down the national debt. stay with me here for a moment because we'll show you exactly, you know, how much your taxes will be rising. but here's the thing. it doesn't have to happen, this predetermined jump in income taxes and the new parlor game on capitol hill is to pick the next republican, follow me here who is willing to break a no tax pledge made to a very powerful lobbyist, in order to cut a deal with the democrats to focus the pain of new taxes on the wealthy. see this picture? see these three guys. here is yet another republican speaking just this morning. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. i made tennesseans aware i was just elected that the only thing i'm honoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> so republican senator bob corker is saying his oath of office trumps any no tax pledge made to washington lobbyist grover nor quist. republican saxby chambliss says he cares more about america and the fiscal mess we're in than h
in their heels on the issues of taxes. democrats seem to be hardening their stance. taxes, that challenge is going to be to find a way to increase taxes on the wealthy. to increase taxes on higher earners without increasing the rate. that would be a win win for both sides. the question is, how do you do that? one option, to potentially roll back tax breaks that wealthier americans and corporations are given. they're batting a couple of ideas around. one thing that is giving folks hope, the fact that house speaker john boehner and eric cantor seem to be working more in lock step now than they were during the summer of 2011. if that holds, it really could help the house of representatives to get on 3w0rd of some type of idea. >> we've heard from chairman bernanke and others. how much of a factor will the fed and the ceos of all these major companies be as we get closer to this major deadline? >> one of the questions is how do people react where all these tax increase, all these spending cuts take effect. if there's no deal in the middle of december, say, do we start to see some real impacts
everybody, our start start this morning the fight over the cliff intensifies. remember that no tax hike pledge. new signs that the gop may be starting to rebel from that. maybe a compromise before the 35-day deadline passes. and congress gets back to work this morning. plus a power grab in egypt. mohamed morsi under fire for granting himself extraordinary powers. will that affect cease-fire talks between israel and hamas? they're happening in egypt today. >> and $59 billion! retail records broken as americans crowded stores for some competitive shopping over the weekend. and now cyber monday is here. will shoppers be in even more of a spending mood? >> you want to talk about money? a new powerball jackpot. a new record in the cash payout. it's unreal. >> a packed two hours ahead for you this morning. new jersey congressman bill pascrell will be joining us, grover norquist, jamie rubin, dr. hanan ashrawi, will be our guest, peter billingsley from a christmas story, and grinle college hoops star jack taylor. remember him? big game he had the other day. and the one and only tony benne
washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. why use temporary treatments when you can prevent the acid that's causing it with prevacid24hr. with one pill prevacid24hr works at the source to prevent the acid that causes frequent heartburn all day and all night. and with new prevacid24hr perks, you can earn rewards from dinner deals to music downloads for purchasing prevacid24hr. prevent acid all day and all night for 24 hours with prevacid24hr. >>> how do you say a person like susan rice is not qualified? you may not like her. i you may not like the administration. but don't say she's not qualified. she is the most qualified person that i'm sure any of you know, that the senators know. it is a shame that anytime
to leave the agency. with the content congressional negotiations are the sequester and tax cuts to expire at the end of the year, tonight and prime time, focusing on the beginnings of the debt of the debate on the national debt. c-span will go back to august of last year to review some of the debate and is congress is from congress and the white house to run in the passage of the budget control act. the law created the automatic spending cuts to take effect in january along with some expiring tax revisions as part of the so- called fiscal cliff. it airs tonight it it o'clock eastern-- a o'clock here on c-span. >> in january, our first week we were sworn into office, the president ask for an increase in the debt ceiling. i made clear at that time there would be no increase in the debt ceiling without significant cuts in spending and changes to the way we spend the american people's money. shortly after that, i was in new york and gave a speech and outlined i thought the spending cuts should exceed the amount of debt limit increase and there should be no taxes as part of this agreement. whe
. this is not complicated. we're not in this mes mess becae washington taxes too little. we're in this mess because washington spends too much. the american people know that and we're not going to get out of it until democrats get serious about real spending cuts and meaningful -- meaningful entitlement changes. so this morning i'd like to speak in a little more detail about why it is that we need to strengthen and protect these entitlement programs through reforms that match them up with the nation's changing demographics. democrats like to pretend as though they're the great protectors of social security, medicare, and medicaid. they make solemn pledges all the time about how they won't even entertain a discussion about reform. what they don't say is that ignoring these programs is the surest way to guarantee their collapse. all we're calling for is an honest conversation. we all know these programs are in trouble. let's figure out a solution. when it comes to entitlements, republicans are guided by a simple principle: we don't want americans to age into a system that no longer exists. we do not
to raise taxes we're going to do it on everybody. that to me is fairness. i don't think anybody's taxes ought to be raised. i'm offended listening to the people responsible for this blame the american people because they're not paying enough in taxes for the problem. that's not our problem. our problem is a spending problem, first, second, third, fourth, fifth, on down to number ten. >> the countdown is on and we're 42 days from running off the so-called fiscal cliff. yesterday as you heard, rush limbaugh came down hard against raising taxes to solve this problem. he lamented the gop infighting whether to let the bush tax cuts expire on the richest americansp during a speech yesterday, federal reserve chairman ben bernanke who coined the term fiscal cliff warned of dire consequences if congress doesn't get their act together. >> spending cuts that make up the fiscal cliff absent offsetting changes would pose a substantial threat recovery. by the reckoning of the congressional budget office, the cbo, and that of many outside observers a fiscal shock of that size would send the economy to
mitchell live in washington. congress is back. grover norquist's tax pledge could be history. and all eyes are now focusing on house republicans as talks to avoid going over that so-called fiscal cliff are picking up steam. joining me now, mark halperin, senior political analyst for "time" and msnbc and ruth marcus, columnist and editorial writer for the "washington post." to you, mark, what is your read about what we've been hearing the last couple of days about grover norquist, the pledge and how much running room the speaker does have to b negotiating a deal. >> i did a spit take with my fruity pebbles watching "morning joe" because eric cantor's tone was unlike anything i've ever heard. his office is saying oh, no, he's against raising marginal rates, but it's clear that in the scheme of things, the biggest piece is does john boehner have enough running room to strike a deal involving some new revenue. i still am of the belief that the vote in the house, which will be a cliff hanger no matter what happens amongst the leaders in the white house, it will be a tough vote. i think it will
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